We continue to discuss paradigm shifts which are important if we are to move from legacy models in the western church to movement models. In this episode we open a conversation on shifting from the gospel of salvation to the gospel of the Kingdom. The gospel of the Kingdom focuses on the reality that Jesus is King, that God rules, and that life is not just about getting saved but we are to enter into the reality that Jesus gets to oversee everything in our lives. 

We will try sharing paradigm shifts that we think must happen for a local church or western Christian to shift towards DMM. We tend to place emphasis in our discipleship in our churches in a different place than Disciple Making Movements do. In this episode we look at knowledge based discipleship and obedience based discipleship. 

In this episode Jeff shares three reasons why anyone should care about DMM in North America. Keeping the main thing the main thing, we will face judgement, and the world is looking for answers to life's biggest questions. We discuss the role of authenticity in disciple making and how authenticity begins with understanding. 

In this episode we briefly discuss and clarify what is the barn using the Haggai 2 scripture. We also discuss a potential reason why the seed is still in the barn and how the focus of spiritual formation might be stopping the spreading of the seed into the fields to reap a harvest in due time. 

In this episode we take a brief look at Haggai 2:19 asking the same question...is the seed still in the barn? Until then the plants had not produced their harvest, but God was promising a blessing and changes were coming. Can the same be true for North America?